Comments on: Can A Prime .NET Geo Domain Be Built Into A Goldmine? http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/ Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:05:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Mike http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-71 Mike Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:39:06 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-71 Perhaps if you can develop .net into a popular site and then later acquire the .com Perhaps if you can develop .net into a popular site and then later acquire the .com

]]> By: Tim Davids http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-70 Tim Davids Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:04:00 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-70 wouldn't gambling still be illegal on a .com or a .net? I dont know much about that subject but it's still internet gambling...I heard it not gambling if its a game of skill...but the extension has no bearing. wouldn’t gambling still be illegal on a .com or a .net? I dont know much about that subject but it’s still internet gambling…I heard it not gambling if its a game of skill…but the extension has no bearing.

]]> By: Patrick Mcdermott http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-69 Patrick Mcdermott Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:42:15 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-69 "All of the major poker sites promote their .NET domains on commercials and gear to get consumers to go and play poker for free, even though they own the .COM, they chose to use the .NET version. ' Hi, They used the .net version to get around the laws restricting gambling advertising. By offering Free poker lessons at their .net sites, they could then drive the customer to the .com gambling site. It was a very smart tactic! Patrick “All of the major poker sites promote their .NET domains on commercials and gear to get consumers to go and play poker for free, even though they own the .COM, they chose to use the .NET version.
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Hi,

They used the .net version to get around the laws restricting gambling advertising.

By offering Free poker lessons at their .net sites, they could then drive the customer to the .com gambling site.

It was a very smart tactic!

Patrick

]]> By: Bob http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-68 Bob Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:45:39 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-68 Tim, Today the restaurant manager may not be that concerned about whether your site is a .com or a .net. His head is already spinning because he has been hit by sales reps trying to collect money to go on yellowpages.com and bigyellow.com and yellowwhatever.com and superpages.com etc etc. Plus, his buddy has suggested that he might want to set up a program with Google Adwords or Yahoo. Unless you are selling space on a killer geo like PalmSprings.com, you probably are going to have to give him a great presentation of your service and do four follow-up visits, sell yourself to him and establish some rapport and trust, be clean cut, and all this doesn't count the times you try to visit him and he is not there.... It also would help if you can show him that neighboring businesses are already in your ad program. Considering all that, whether it is a .com or a .net may just be one of many small factors in whether you make a sale. And speaking of the reps selling ads for my example above, PalmSprings.com .... or lets say one of the other great city sites such as NewYorkCity.com or Chicago.com, my guess is that those sales reps wouldn't describe their sales as 'easy'. More often then not, it can be tough to seperate local businesses from their ad money. Spend a day out in the field trying to sell to some, and you will probably get a whole new education! Tim, Today the restaurant manager may not be that concerned about whether your site is a .com or a .net. His head is already spinning because he has been hit by sales reps trying to collect money to go on yellowpages.com and bigyellow.com and yellowwhatever.com and superpages.com etc etc. Plus, his buddy has suggested that he might want to set up a program with Google Adwords or Yahoo. Unless you are selling space on a killer geo like PalmSprings.com, you probably are going to have to give him a great presentation of your service and do four follow-up visits, sell yourself to him and establish some rapport and trust, be clean cut, and all this doesn’t count the times you try to visit him and he is not there…. It also would help if you can show him that neighboring businesses are already in your ad program. Considering all that, whether it is a .com or a .net may just be one of many small factors in whether you make a sale.
And speaking of the reps selling ads for my example above, PalmSprings.com …. or lets say one of the other great city sites such as NewYorkCity.com or Chicago.com, my guess is that those sales reps wouldn’t describe their sales as ‘easy’. More often then not, it can be tough to seperate local businesses from their ad money. Spend a day out in the field trying to sell to some, and you will probably get a whole new education!

]]> By: Tim Davids http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-64 Tim Davids Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:03:04 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-64 I agree with most of everyones posts about extensions "other" than .com BUT, try going into a restaurant and getting them to give you $100 for an ad on xxxxxxxxrestaurants.net. It will be a tough sell due to the mega branding of .com to date. It's not "you" or other domainers you have to convice, it's the peeps whos checkbook your hoping to withdrawl from you have to convince. I agree with most of everyones posts about extensions “other” than .com BUT, try going into a restaurant and getting them to give you $100 for an ad on xxxxxxxxrestaurants.net. It will be a tough sell due to the mega branding of .com to date. It’s not “you” or other domainers you have to convice, it’s the peeps whos checkbook your hoping to withdrawl from you have to convince.

]]> By: GeoGuy http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-63 GeoGuy Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:47:10 +0000 http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/04/can-a-net-geo-domain-be-built-into-a-goldmine/#comment-63 Waouw, man, thanks a lot for this whole post dedicated to the geo.net. I'm not a professional geopreneur (yet) but a latecomer domainer ; however I know SEO and developing (webmaster for years now). I agree with all your points. Thanks for the 20% estimation, it's really greater than I thought. At the moment the .com is parked so I would have the freedom to do also what .com does. I may have to ajust later if the .com develops... and I wouldn't like that. But I think a .net must focus on Internet activities like forums, chat. It means network but this is not only telecommunication network, this is also social network. So you have to stick with the extension idea because it's highly brandable. Of course you can always try to sell hotel rooms on a .ws but I'm just not this kind of people. Now the problem is to find a business model thats suits the networking idea ! I don't see anything but free web services, an online community and ads everywhere. A lot of work for little money ? The branding idea is applicable to any other extension like .tv or .info... you make videos/a TV or a newspaper. Your brand is geo.activity and I think it's great. Now the .com is so great for it's idea, too. I mean it's the only one that conveys visitors may spend some money on your website. Commercial. With .com there's also the direct navigation goldmine. However I just don't know... Since I discovered it I can't help thinking it will die slowly. Look at Firefox, when you enter a keyword in the address bar it doesn't add the .com, it does a Google search. Of course because Google funds Firefox. With the time the browsers will all do the same for other search engines. ISPs even start to DNS redirect the trafic. So for now .com are goldmines but direct navigation will decrease... unless I'm missing a major point. There's something really not clear about it in my mind. OK some domains receive huge direct navigation but are not affordable, and even if you buy them, for how long will it go on... ? I'm gonna launch a thread on this on NamePros if interested to follow the flamewar :-) It's true direct navigation is also people typing domain + extension and now .com is the king. But you often see geo requests that don't have any keyword + com terms. So this makes me think it has a lot to do with branding and therefore developing. This is why I'm a strong believer in .tv. Your brand is geo.activity. You are the TV of the city, the county, ... But man the starting curve is so steep I mean if like me you have no big pockets to pay TV producers you need a fu**ing megabrain to scale your plans... Waouw, man, thanks a lot for this whole post dedicated to the geo.net.

I’m not a professional geopreneur (yet) but a latecomer domainer ; however I know SEO and developing (webmaster for years now). I agree with all your points. Thanks for the 20% estimation, it’s really greater than I thought.

At the moment the .com is parked so I would have the freedom to do also what .com does. I may have to ajust later if the .com develops… and I wouldn’t like that.

But I think a .net must focus on Internet activities like forums, chat. It means network but this is not only telecommunication network, this is also social network. So you have to stick with the extension idea because it’s highly brandable. Of course you can always try to sell hotel rooms on a .ws but I’m just not this kind of people. Now the problem is to find a business model thats suits the networking idea ! I don’t see anything but free web services, an online community and ads everywhere. A lot of work for little money ?

The branding idea is applicable to any other extension like .tv or .info… you make videos/a TV or a newspaper. Your brand is geo.activity and I think it’s great.

Now the .com is so great for it’s idea, too. I mean it’s the only one that conveys visitors may spend some money on your website. Commercial.

With .com there’s also the direct navigation goldmine. However I just don’t know… Since I discovered it I can’t help thinking it will die slowly. Look at Firefox, when you enter a keyword in the address bar it doesn’t add the .com, it does a Google search. Of course because Google funds Firefox. With the time the browsers will all do the same for other search engines. ISPs even start to DNS redirect the trafic. So for now .com are goldmines but direct navigation will decrease… unless I’m missing a major point. There’s something really not clear about it in my mind. OK some domains receive huge direct navigation but are not affordable, and even if you buy them, for how long will it go on… ? I’m gonna launch a thread on this on NamePros if interested to follow the flamewar :-)

It’s true direct navigation is also people typing domain + extension and now .com is the king. But you often see geo requests that don’t have any keyword + com terms. So this makes me think it has a lot to do with branding and therefore developing.

This is why I’m a strong believer in .tv. Your brand is geo.activity. You are the TV of the city, the county, … But man the starting curve is so steep I mean if like me you have no big pockets to pay TV producers you need a fu**ing megabrain to scale your plans…

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