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.mobi Madness, Especially With Prime .mobi Geo Domains

  Posts Posted by Steve under General on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 10:15 pm

There has been alot in the news lately about peoples perspective of the .mobi meltdown. I honestly do not understand what all the hype is all about. If a .mobi is bought for $35 and sells for $18,000, I would say that is a pretty good ROI. How is this possibly a bad thing, because it did not sell for $180,000? I think many people in this industry like to hit on confrontational issues on purpose, just to see the reaction they can stir up. Although, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that is what makes this industry so great. However, this is only my opinion and not the focus of this post.

What is crazy is the .mobi registry itself with geo domains. Apparently, these prime .mobi geo domains have been reserved for government entities, where they must apply to receive the name. In a recent request from an associate to acquire a geo domain from the registry, this is the response given:

As explained on the phone and also in emails to you (and —–) mid last year, we chose to allocate our city .mobi names to Government entities / city authorities. Note that Government entities were able to delegate the task to a local agency or organization and there were / are opportunities for private parties to partner with those entities. In response to this process, we received applications from Zaragoza, Barcelona , Helsinki , Rome , Basel , Salzburg , Madrid and Frankfurt amongst others (note that some of these sites are still in their development phase). Not all of these sites have been announced as the cities are leading on the press releases.http://www.fortunecookie.co.uk/). This is the company behind the WorldMobi venture which was specifically set up for the city names project - you can view their work at http://world.mobi and http://city.mobi although sites are still under development.http://www.worldtravelawards.com/), the world’s only travel awards ceremony. The World Travel Group also produces eleven travel news mag azines [I have attached an example article publicizing the venture] and they are well placed to develop, manage and market the city names programme.

Governments will still be entitled to apply for their city names but in the absence of having received any application for a particular city on the reserved names list, we are allowing WorldMobi to incorporate that city site into their city.mobi / world.mobi portal. If an application is received, it will be queued until the end of each contractual cycle and evaluated at that stage.

I hope this helps explain the process that we are using.

However, in order to expedite the roll out of compelling content on the .mobi domain, dotMobi has now chosen to partner with Fortune Cookie (

Fortune Cookie is well known for its high end, corporate web development and is well connected with the BBC. The Chairman of WorldMobi, Graham Cooke, is also the President of the World Travel Awards (

This is pretty amazing that the consumer is not able to develop a .mobi geo domain, but their select partner can and is in the best position to develop great .mobi geo domains. Further, even if a government entity does apply for a prime .mobi geo domain, they are not guaranteed to get it now, because of their new partnership with FortuneCookie.co.uk. Does anyone see anything unethical with this picture?

This is the same thing that happened with the .travel extention and the corruption that has occured since its initial launch. With BS policies to deter consumers from registering .mobi geo domains, and only allowing their “strategic partner” to develop them, .mobi is following the foot prints of .travel. It is amazing that ICANN continues to allow registries to use their extensions designed for the public, to profit from by keeping some of the best for them, without allowing them to be available to consumers first.

Simply amazing. If new registries are going to keep the best for themselves and auction off names during their launch, then are they truly a registry for the people? IMO, they are nothing more than extortionist at best. This is unacceptable and ICANN should enforce new policies to prevent registries from conducting unethical business practices such as these, with fierce fines and punishment for those who abuse the trust they have been given to deliver services to consumers.

7 Responses to “.mobi Madness, Especially With Prime .mobi Geo Domains”

  1. Emil @KING.NET Says:

    I don’t really care about the .mobi extension. So I have no issue with their policies.

    I can make my own with my existing domain e.g. http://m.fairfaxcity.com or http://fairfaxcity.com/mobile

    Yes it will be another .travel flop.

    IMHO



  2. james barclay Says:

    Steve,

    I have seen some pretty impressive .mobi geos on peoples signitures on Namepros - so is this something new???



  3. Jeff Jefferson Says:

    Steve,

    I’m glad you wrote about this topic. My main focus is geo-mobi domains, and I’ve talked with mTLD a few times about the reserved cities. My thoughts:

    1. mTLD is not going to profit (at least not much) from the sale of reserved city.mobi domains. Local government can get these names for a relatively small fee. I believe that mTLD’s position is that it’s better to have great city.mobi names developed by local government (with a strategic partner) than to have them held by private parties who may or may not develop.

    2. mTLD passed up quite a bit of revenue that would have been generated from auctioning these prime geo domains. They are serious about the long-term prospects of the TLD, rather than just grabbing as much cash as they can in the short term.

    3. I’m glad that mTLD worked a deal with Fortune Cookie. When people visit Chicago.mobi, they see useful, relevant content. Before Fortune Cookie, I don’t think the page would even resolve. I’d love to see mTLD do this with more of the unallocated premium domains.

    4. It’s true that mTLD has auctioned off other premium domains, but they are a business, they have employees, they have expenses. There is a lot to be won or lost in the mobile internet, and being well-funded is important. Additionally, these auctions generated quite a bit of press, which helped spread the word to people who otherwise might not have known about mobi.

    5. I agree with your comment about confrontation. I don’t understand why people get so emotional about a TLD, but people seem to be much more passionate (both pro and con) about mobi than virtually any other extension. I’m glad that simplygeo.com has not devolved into a forum for bashing and personal attacks (again, by both pro and con)–there are plenty of places where that is not the case.

    6. My opinion is that mobi has a chance to do very well. If marketed correctly and adopted/promoted by large companies, it can become a logical/intuitive choice for mobile internet users. I also think that geo sites are well suited for the extension, because quite often the person needing the type of information found on a geo site is away from a desktop or laptop.

    Thanks,

    Jeff



  4. Jeff Jefferson Says:

    @ James: mTLD reserved most large US cities, and those have never been in the hands of investors/domainers. Quite a few smaller cities were made available at landrush. Some members of a discussion board I visit registered Reno and Cincinnati. I was able to get a decent number myself–mid-sized places like Chapel Hill, Clearwater, Bloomington, Gainesville, Tunica, etc.



  5. james barclay Says:

    Hi Jeff - Thankyou for taking your time to respond…….Talk about being fully invested iin geos and the .mobi extensiion!!!

    I read through your list and if .mobi manages to stick around for the long haul - you should do - just fine!!!

    Ok, I will name a name Manhattan.mobi - owned by a domaianer I respect very much - surely if the tld would have held geos back this would have been one of them??!!

    Can you provide examples of solid geos that are currently off the market??

    Steve, awaiting your feedback to my comments too - you poor guy - you must be worked off your feet!!!!!

    ***SMO***
    James,

    Jeff has answered your questions. There were only 650 major cities reserved by .mobi. I took the weekend off, so I could relax. The work load will not decrease anytime soon, but it is all good fun.



  6. Jeff Jefferson Says:

    No problem, James. I’m familiar with manhattan.mobi–it was not reserved by mTLD and a domainer was able to register it within minutes of the beginning of the mobi landrush. If I had to guess, I’d say that mTLD did not reserve it because Manhattan is a borough of New York City, and it isn’t technically a city itself. I wish I had been a bit quicker–I’d love to have grabbed it.

    There are roughly 650 cities that were reserved by mTLD–a full list can be found at this link:
    http://mtld.mobi/files/dotMobiListOfAvailableCity%20NamesGovtAllocProcess%20-%2021%20June%202007.pdf

    If you look at this list, you’ll see that most of the major US cities are reserved (NewYorkCity, Chicago, Dallas, Miami, LosAngeles, etc.) plus major world capitals like Paris, London and Moscow. These reserved cities are being developed by Fortune Cookie. My understanding is that if one of these cities wants to develop its own mobi site, mTLD can take it away from Fortune Cookie and give it to that city. But until that happens, Fortune Cookie will provide relevant content, which I think is great for all geo mobi sites.

    Jeff



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