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The Other Side Of Geo Continued

  Posts Posted by Steve under General on Friday, May 30th, 2008 10:23 pm

Yesterday, a misleading article was once again published by Sahar Sarid on geo domains that misinformed many people in the domain industry. My first reaction was to respond to this post on his blog. However, I decided to wait things out and put my emotions aside, so I could write an informative post on geo domains based on facts and not opinions to give domainers and investors an unbiased view of geo domains that speaks volumes on its own. As most seasoned domainers and investors will tell you, a golden rule is to follow the smart money when it comes to reaching new levels of success before things go mainstream.

Throughout the years, there has never been a segment of the domain industry that has risen to center stage and become embraced by so many major players in the domain industry and media world. The reason Geo Domains are being embraced by many is due to the transformation of the internet by monster media companies such as Google.com and Yahoo!. Almost everything on the internet is transforming into local platforms to better serve consumers who are mobile and who depend on their mobile media devices to access information online. (More on this below) Effectively developed geo domains are the best local platforms on the internet that have an intimate connection with consumers all over the world and are embraced by millions of consumers monthly.

Before continuing, it is important for readers to understand “What Are Geo Domains?” They are not only .com domains, but much more. There is more to the domain industry than just America, and many American domainers have started to realize this, while those outside of America have always known this key fact.

The geo domain industry has been the best kept secret in the domain industry for over 10 years. While thousands of entrepreneurs were focused on “chasing domains” and building powerful portfolios for PPC payouts, others seized opportunity and secured some of the most valuable domains in the world and turned them into successful businesses. Most did this by hard work and following their gut feeling that has paid off well. Not only has it paid off well, revenue has started to skyrocket from advertisers wanting to advertise on geo specific websites in 2008. Additionally, many geo domain owners in the domain industry have become major threats to traditional print media advertising revenue because of their intuitive branding power over consumers.

The “Local” transformation on the internet this past year has forced traditional print media to regroup and find ways to effectively deliver local content to mobile users via the internet. For most, they have chosen geo domains. By doing this effectively, these media companies have generated large volumes of advertising revenue.

The Madison Capital Times took their media empire 100% online with Madison.com due to severe revenue drops with their print publications. This alone tells you how powerful their geo domain is to their media empire.

The LA Times reported that that they will bring in close to $25 million in online display revenue this year with their geo domain, LATimes.com. They went from generating $6 million in 2005 to $25 million in just 3 years with their geo domain.

Trinity Mirror, a major print media company in Europe, announced their launch of a geo domain network to deliver local content to mobile consumers. Additionally, they announced they will no longer be in the business of local newspapers.

These are just a few examples that show effectively developed geo domains can deliver large revenue streams. This is only the tip of the iceberg as the power of geo domains is starting to be unvealed.

Below you find projections for local search and local advertising on the internet by many of the top industry analysts. (source: searchengineland.com)

The Kelsey Group

The Kelsey Group forecast consists of Internet yellow pages (IYP), geotargeted paid-search advertising and local mobile ads (still tiny). Last year online classified advertising was included in the forecast, which appears to have been excluded this year. Wireless is also de-emphasized in the current forecast.

Global forecast:
2006: $4.1 billion
2011: $11.1 billion

The previous Kelsey forecast put U.S. local search revenues (as defined above) at $1 billion in 2005.


Borrell Associates

Borrell casts a broader net in its definition of “local online advertising.” As a consequence its numbers are larger. Included in the definition are geotargeted display ads and classifieds, local paid search, local video and locally targeted email advertising.

U.S. forecast:
2007: $7.7 billion
2010: $9.3 billion


Jupiter Research

Jupiter, which has historically taken a contrarian position and been bearish about “local search,” similarly defines a relatively broad category for “local online advertising.” While not quite as broad as Borrell, Jupiter includes paid search, locally targeted display advertising and classifieds. Jupiter believes that classifieds will dominate (61%) local spending through the forecast period and estimates geotargeted paid search advertising will reach $2.1 billion by 2011.

U.S. forecast:
2006: $4.3 billion
2011: $8 billion ($2.1 billion attributable to local paid search)


eMarketer

The data aggregator has in the past couple of years started generating its own online ad forecasts. The company doesn’t explicitly define what segments comprise its “local online advertising” category but it appears to generally mirror the Borrell definition. Local paid search is broken out as a subset of the larger local category. However, notwithstanding its apparently broad definition of local, eMarketer’s projections are more conservative than any of the other firms.

U.S. forecast:
2006: $1.3 billion ($800 million attributable to local paid search)
2010: $4.9 billion ($2.7 billion attributable to local paid search)


Piper Jaffray

Following the most conservative of the local forecasts is the most bullish. In a recently released 425 page report entitled “The User Revolution: The New Advertising Ecosystem and the Rise of the Internet As a Mass Medium,” Piper has aggressively embraced local search.

Piper estimates local online advertising, here defined as local search, IYP and classifieds, to be worth $4.589 billion today. The firm contends the medium-term local market potential is $25.9 billion. Piper also believes that local can eventually represent 50% of all search volume, assuming improvements in data quality as well as several other upgrades and innovations.

U.S. forecast:

2006: $4.589 ($989 million attributable to local paid search)
Market potential: $25.9 billion

Based on the factual data I have provided, you can see just how powerful the geo domain industry is becoming. I could list hundreds of more examples, but this is not necessary if you analyze the powerful information I have provided here and on past posts on the blog. The geo domain industry is still very young and already has some very impressive statistics. How can anyone say geo domains are overrated with statistics like this and new transformation occurring on the internet, the local market?

I would like to touch on a few topics Sahar addressed with more facts.

1. RickLatona.com: Rick has done an amazing job promoting the geo domain industry by selling many of his outstanding geo domains to owners who will transform them from poor PPC earners into successful businesses. Some will just resell for a greater profit as well. Rick is an entrepreneur, so of course he is taking advantage and selling many geo domains at great prices when there is demand. What is important to analyze is that he is selling most of them below market and not holding out for top dollar like most domainers. He does this with generic domains as well. Again, he is selling geo domains to domainers/end users so they can build businesses, because PPC does not work for geo domains.

2. Are they making money today? Please see info above and read what others are making in the domain industry from their geo domains. See Local.com, Marchex, etc. quarterly earning reports. See past sales and how geo domains have increased year after year. You will find the answer. The numbers do not lie. No hidden agenda to promoting geo domains, as they are common sense commodities to invest in once you do the research.

3. Dr. Kevin Ham: He is very new to the geo domain industry. He sees how poor they are for PPC earnings. There is no doubt that Kevin and his team will figure out how to exploit the revenue streams in their geo domains and build media empires around them. They will set the example for the industry to follow from scratch.

4. All the rest of the comments. Simply misinformed. Looking from the sidelines is the most misleading place to deliver information about an industry. It is like Martha Stewart trying to tell you how to Hunt. How credible would she be if she done that out of the blue? Exactly. There is no obligation to speak on subjects someone has no real knowledge of.

In closing, the GeoDomain Expo will be a great event to attend if you wish to learn more about the geo domain industry from “PROVEN GEO PROFESSIONALS” and not the sideline noise. It will be held from July 10-12 in Chicago.

Simplygeo.com will continue to deliver educational content for the geo domain industry. Just as I predicted early on, geo domains have become main stream in the domain industry. There are many great things to come from those who effectively develop their geo domains into media empires. I will surely write the success stories for historical purposes. I only hope that this article gets republished through mainstream blogs, in the same way the misleading one was, “The Other Side To Geo. We will soon find out the answer to this.

Thank you for your continued support.

15 Responses to “The Other Side Of Geo Continued”

  1. Rob Sequin Says:

    Wow. You really did your homework for this article. Great resource for any geo haters :-)



  2. Fred Mercaldo Says:

    Attaboy Steve….excellent article…the trends, facts, and realities are all on our side, and it gets more exciting every day. Thanks for a great rebuttal and response…Fred.



  3. David J Castello Says:

    Well researched, Steve.



  4. M. Menius Says:

    Excellent information Steve. Thanks for your hard work on these subjects.



  5. Gordon Borrell Says:

    Excellent post. We have watched the geodomain industry very closely over the years and have collected revenue data from many of them for our annual surveys. We have watched the “newspaper” websites and “TV” websites and “Yellow Pages” websites scoop up business by upselling their current customer base….but we’ve seen the geodomain industry build a NEW business. What few really realize is that the legacy media businesses are almost all losing share on the Internet because their current advertisers — to whom they’ve upsold online advertising — are leaving. The geodomains are growing fast, and history is on their side: It’s almost always the newcomer who captures the new business, not the incumbent.

    Thanks for terrific post.

    ***SMO***

    Thank you for taking the time to post Gordon. As you already know, we have only begun to scratch the surface of this emerging industry.



  6. NY Says:

    As expected, great post Steve.

    The facts are facts…and it is becoming more obvious as the days pass by how “real” it really is…

    ANYONE, who claims otherwise is simply foolish.

    The crazy thing is we are still at stage 1 of 1000 of where this is all headed.

    NY



  7. Brian Berke Says:

    Steve,

    Personally I think it was a slap in the face that Sahar did not give you your due when he mentioned the reasons for the Geo Domain market being hot. It is 100% fact that you are a big part of the recent interest in the Geo Domain space through the platforms you have instantly made successful (SimplyGeo.com, SimplyGeo.net and GeoDomainer.com) as well as your revolutionary effort to unite the Geo community as a whole. I know the best is yet to come. Steve you are a vital reason this is all happening and keep up the great work!!!

    ***SMO***

    Thank you Brian. It was a slap in the face, but his words will not stop the industry from growing or from geo domains increasing in value. At the end of the day, he is just another domainer with an opinion.

    Thanks.



  8. Jamie Parks Says:

    Something about sources and facts that can always bear down on misinformation and speculative opinion. I still can’t figure out what exactly drove Sahar to raise a warning flag over geo. Nevertheless, I commend your efforts. Nothing but blue skies overhead.



  9. Michael Castello Says:

    What gives Geo the added advantage is the grassroots effort of a whole group of people impassioned with a cause. Nowhere else have I seen the organizational efforts of a whole group of people evolving to create something they can call their own. That is very powerful because it evolves domain names into a powerbase of development. This is a movement with a cause which will see a much larger effect.



  10. Richard Says:

    Well researched post Steve - thanks !

    - Richard



  11. Tom Says:

    Excellent post, Steve! Glad you decided to post it here on your own blog where the sun is shining. Cheers.



  12. Frank Rudner Says:

    As usual eloquently put, enough said.



  13. JB Says:

    Who is Sahar Sarid?



  14. Gordon Says:

    I wouldn’t get worked up over what other people say - everybody is always going to have opinions.

    I’m big on the GEO but also understand the threats / concerns of others.

    Also - I think latimes.com is a bad example to use. That is an organization that has been around for 100 years, probably has 40 people working on the website, a sales force of 15 people and over 100 people creating unique content every single day. I would surely hope they can bring in $25 million.

    the nashville.com’s of the world are a much better example.

    ***SMO***

    Gordon,

    Very true about opinions. But when a proven professional slanders a subject without facts, and only opinions, it will not be tolerated. We could expect something like this from a rookie, but………..

    LaTimes.com is not a bad example. It proves that advertisers are moving away from traditional print publications to embrace the internet and the LA Times geo domain. Sure it is their brand, but it represents a geo location, Los Angeles, that they have branded. I have blogged about the LATimes.com in the past and them being an established organization. No secret there. Again, the true value is the fact that they went from $6 million in advertising to $25 million in just 3 short years.

    Guess what, they had the same staff back then as well and established writers. The difference is that advertisers have shifted their dollars to the geo specific website. Their print advertising revenue has decreased immensely, much the same way with all major print media.

    These are key relevant facts to the geo domain industry. Again, readers really need to analyze the factual data, instead of finding ways to discredit the facts posted. (Not saying you are, but it is happening in other places)



  15. M. Menius Says:

    Developing domain names and learning to push your business idea to another level is the obvious dream here that ties domainers together. We like the geo space because it represents a great opportunity, and this brings like-minded people together.

    Regarding Sahar, I’ve tapped into his comments from time to time in an effort to hone my own ideas. It’s all part of learning from others. His view on geo was a surprise … though his comments had no effect on my plans or perception regarding geodomains. Just another person’s opinion.

    The thumbs down graphic was Sahar being a bit of a stinker imo. I think he could have approached the subject in a more constructive way, but instead chose the provocative route for whatever reason. Water under the bridge by now. Personally, geo needs no defense since the value is self-evident.

    Far more important is what geodomainers are doing. Which is to promote the space, assist one another, build geo’s out to another level, and share ideas.



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